PEDCO President & CEO Jeff Shaw Announces Resignation After Years of Service to Pueblo Economic Development
PUEBLO, CO — May 22, 2026 – Jeff Shaw, President & CEO of the Pueblo Economic Development Corporation (PEDCO), has submitted his letter of resignation to the PEDCO Board of Directors after accepting an economic development position in Texas. Shaw’s final day with PEDCO will be June 14.
Shaw has been actively involved with PEDCO for more than 25 years, including eight years of service on the Board of Directors and serving as Board Chair in 2008. He was appointed President & CEO in 2015.
During his tenure as President & CEO, PEDCO helped attract, expand, and retain roughly 2,000 primary jobs with companies that continue to do business in Pueblo. Those projects include United Launch Alliance, Coronado Stone, Vestas and Big R expansions, CR Minerals attraction and expansion, Grady’s expansion, Pewag, Evraz Steel Mill retention, TCCI/MxV Rail, Ecological Materials, Fomcore, and Trussworks.
“Jeff’s professionalism, knowledge, institutional recall, and ability to connect with PEDCO prospects and help them navigate complicated issues will be deeply missed,” said current PEDCO Board Chair Bob Leach. “His departure leaves a significant hole in our organization and in this community, but we are grateful for his years of service and the positive impact he has made on both PEDCO and Pueblo. We wish Jeff and his family the very best in this next chapter.”
Shaw said his time with PEDCO has been meaningful because of the people and partnerships behind the work.
“It has been an honor and privilege to be part of PEDCO and to work alongside so many great leaders in this community, both within PEDCO and across our partner organizations,” said Shaw. “The work of PEDCO depends on a strong team. I have full confidence in the PEDCO Board, staff, membership, and community partners to keep current and future projects moving forward. The mission of PEDCO to attract, expand, and retain primary jobs in Pueblo County will continue.”
PEDCO’s Next Chapter
As PEDCO prepares for this leadership transition, the Board of Directors will take the opportunity to evaluate how the organization continues strengthening its role in Pueblo’s economic development landscape.
The Board intends to review PEDCO’s current priorities, organizational structure, and opportunities to better support business attraction, expansion, retention, and primary job growth in Pueblo County. This transition provides an opportunity to build on PEDCO’s decades of work while also looking ahead at how the organization can continue adapting to the needs of employers, site selectors, investors, local businesses, and community partners.
PEDCO remains committed to its core mission of advancing primary job growth and supporting economic opportunities that strengthen Pueblo’s long-term competitiveness.
“The work does not stop with a leadership change,” Leach said. “PEDCO has active projects, strong partners, and an important mission. This is a moment to honor Jeff’s contributions while also looking carefully and positively at how PEDCO can continue serving Pueblo’s business community and economic future.”
PEDCO is excited to share that we have been awarded a $50,000 Market Study Grant through the Colorado CHIPS Community Support Program led by the Colorado Office of Economic Development and International Trade.
At the same time, PuebloPlex was awarded a companion Marketing Grant focused on elevating awareness of Pueblo Plex’s assets and opportunities to semiconductor and advanced industry stakeholders outside of Colorado.
Together, these efforts create a powerful opportunity to both evaluate and promote Pueblo’s potential in the advanced industry sector.
PEDCO’s Market Study Grant will support a comprehensive analysis focused on identifying opportunities to grow semiconductor and advanced industry in Pueblo County, including collaboration with PuebloPlex. The study will evaluate key factors that matter to advanced industry growth, including: • Infrastructure and utility capacity • Workforce and education assets • Industrial sites and community readiness • Existing industry strengths • Opportunities for future investment and development
Meanwhile, PuebloPlex’s Marketing Grant will help showcase the unique community and site assets that position PuebloPlex as a competitive location for future semiconductor and advanced industry investment.
These efforts are part of Colorado’s broader initiative to strengthen the state’s semiconductor and advanced industry ecosystem, and we are excited to work alongside regional partners, industry stakeholders, and the community to help position Pueblo for future opportunities in these high-demand, high-wage sectors.
We’re looking forward to working with regional partners, industry stakeholders, and the community to identify the best long-term strategy for Pueblo’s future.
PEDCO has formally submitted its response to the City of Pueblo’s Request for Qualifications (RFQ) for economic development services. Our submission outlines a clear, execution-focused approach to attracting, retaining, and expanding primary jobs in Pueblo County, grounded in long-standing partnerships, proven results, and deep local knowledge. We appreciate the continued support of our members and community partners and remain committed to advancing projects that strengthen Pueblo’s economy. Updates will be shared as the City’s evaluation process moves forward.
Metro Denver EDC and Pueblo Economic Development Corporation Unite to Boost Front Range Prosperity
PUEBLO, Colo. – September 22, 2025
The Metro Denver Economic Development Corporation (EDC) and the Pueblo Economic Development Corporation (PEDCO) have forged a groundbreaking alliance to drive economic prosperity across Colorado’s Front Range. This partnership leverages Pueblo’s strengths in industries from high tech and advanced manufacturing to critical steel production and outdoor recreation to attract business in the region.
This collaboration marks a new chapter in regional cooperation, focusing on shared goals to enhance economic opportunities. By combining Metro Denver’s dedication to regional collaboration and Pueblo’s business friendly environment, innovative economic incentive tools, and skilled workforce, the partnership aims to position the Front Range as a top destination for growing advanced industries and job-fueling industrial developments. A memorandum of understanding (MoU) formalizes this commitment, emphasizing mutually coordinated efforts to unlock economic opportunity for every Coloradan.
Raymond H. Gonzales, President of Metro Denver EDC, highlighted the impact of this new chapter for the Front Range: “This alliance with PEDCO strengthens our ability to showcase the Front Range as a dynamic region for business expansion. Pueblo’s unique assets, paired with Metro Denver’s economic engine, create a powerful synergy for growth.”
Jeff Shaw, President & CEO of PEDCO, echoed these sentiments, adding: “we are excited to join this incredibly talented alliance. The Front Range is an amazing economic engine and we look forward to helping make it even more dynamic by bringing Pueblo’s assets into the conversation. It is an honor to be part of the team.”
Central to this partnership is the Metro Denver Code of Ethics, a commitment to fostering fair competition and cooperation among neighboring communities, endorsed by organizations and communities across 12 counties and nearly 130 communities, including the Governor’s Office of Economic Development and International Trade (OEDIT). This regional charter promotes collaboration and coordination, ensuring communities work together to achieve shared prosperity and economic resilience.
About Metro Denver Economic Development Corporation
Often called a “center of influence,” the Metro Denver EDC was the nation’s first and largest functional regional economic development organization. From the Wyoming Boarder to Pueblo, we represent the countless communities along Colorado’s Front Range that contribute to our robust economy and culture. As the economic development function of the broader Denver Metro Chamber of Commerce, the EDC serves a 12-county service territory that represents over 80% of the state’s population and GDP. Learn more at www.metrodenver.org.
About Pueblo Economic Development Corporation
The Pueblo Economic Development Corporation (PEDCO) drives business growth and job creation in Pueblo County by supporting new investment, expanding industries, and strengthening the region’s workforce. With deep roots in manufacturing and agriculture, and a focus on innovation, PEDCO positions Pueblo as a premier destination for business success. Learn more at www.pedco.org.
PRESS RELEASE For immediate release: Monday, August 25, 2025, – 3:30 p.m. MST New Jobs in Pueblo!
Trussworks Operations, LLC announces it will open a production facility in Pueblo for manufacturing high-quality wood floor and roof trusses for large-scale multifamily and commercial projects.
PUEBLO – Today Trussworks Operations, LLC, a manufacturer of wood and floor trusses announced it selected Pueblo, Colorado for the site of its new facility. The facility at full capacity will employ 65 full-time workers and generate an estimated $3,530,000 in annual pre-benefit payroll. The new factory will be located at 33850 United Ave. at the Airport Industrial Park.
Why Trussworks Operations, LLC chose Pueblo: Travis Anderson, Operations Manager, stated “Trussworks is excited to have the opportunity to open a new manufacturing plant in Pueblo. PEDCO has been a great partner to work with, and the incentives offered are a big reason why we’ve decided on opening up shop in Pueblo. It is obvious that they are committed to bringing industry into the community in a strategic way. We are a wood truss manufacturing company who primarily focuses on multifamily projects. We do offer design and manufacturing for single-family and light commercial projects in the region as well. We already have a customer base in Colorado and look forward to the chance to win more customers. Our plant will provide on the job training and will also require workers skilled in framing and/ or manufacturing, maintenance technicians and skilled forklift drivers and semi-truck drivers. Trussworks is a nationally recognized company with decades of experience leading the company. We have a solid presence in Texas with three truss plants currently in operation. Trussworks also has location in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, and Arizona. Colorado and Florida are emerging markets for us, with expansions and new development currently underway. We are thrilled to be teaming up with the city of Pueblo and look forward to our joint success and growth.”
Trussworks Operations, LLC made the announcement at 3:30 p.m. on Monday, August 25, 2025. Details of the project include: (contingent on approval from the Pueblo City Council on Sept. 8, 2025) • 65 guaranteed new full-time jobs with a minimum Average Base Annual Salary: $54,300. Plus Benefits • $1,430,000 from the City of Pueblo’s half-cent fund for economic development for land, building and equipment • Up to $32,000 from the City of Pueblo’s half-cent fund for economic development for employee training. • $6 Million investment
“PEDCO is happy to work with Trussworks Operations on this wonderful project for Pueblo,” said Jeff Shaw, President and CEO of PEDCO. “Their team has been wonderful to work with and will fit in perfectly in Pueblo’s manufacturing culture,” said Shaw. “We are thrilled to announce the addition of Trussworks Operations to the Pueblo community. With them they bring 65 new, full-time jobs to the Pueblo community. This project investment was made possible through a collaborative economic incentives package offered by the City of Pueblo and PEDCO thanks to the half-cent sales tax, aimed at driving growth of primary jobs in our robust manufacturing sector.
Their investment is not only a vote of confidence in the Pueblo workforce, but also a testament to the strength of our primary job initiatives. This partnership is exactly what our voters approved; half-cent sales tax is designed to achieve sustainable job creation and long-term community investment. It’s truly a great day for Pueblo!” Added Dominic Gallina, Chairman of the PEDCO Board of Directors.
About PEDCO: The Pueblo Economic Development Corporation (PEDCO) is a member supported non-profit organization whose mission is to attract, retain and expand primary jobs. PEDCO works with city, county, state and community organizations to coordinate available resources for economic development.
The Pueblo Economic Development Corporation, founded in 1981, continues to work towards the mission to Attract, Retain and Expand primary jobs in Pueblo County. Due to the highly confidential nature of projects, it is hard to share with the community all the details but wants to update how we are working to bring jobs to the citizens of Pueblo.
PEDCO is actively working on three strong prospects to drive economic growth in Pueblo County. Combined, there could be potential for over 450 full-time family-supporting jobs located in Pueblo’s Industrial Parks. Efforts to bring these companies to Pueblo include many partners; City of Pueblo – City Council and Mayor, Pueblo County Commissioners, Pueblo Water, Black Hills Energy, Xcel Energy, San Isabel Electric, Pueblo Community College, CSU Pueblo, Pueblo Regional Building Department, Colorado Office of Economic Development and International Trade (OEDIT), Colorado Department of Transportation, and other local and state offices.
“It is always a work in progress to bring a company to fruition,” says PEDCO President/CEO, Jeff Shaw. “It can be several years for a company to go from investigating areas for expansion or relocation to finalizing the deal. Many companies explore several locations across the country to find their best fit and Pueblo has great assets with access to major interstate, railroads & airport hub, climate, as well as access to water.”
Pueblo City Council, who manages the half-cent sales tax fund, and PEDCO work in tandem to bring these prospects to our area. PEDCO is responsible for examining the true potential of businesses on behalf of the city – financial stability, growth potential, employment needs, connections to local educational institutions for training and development, identify utility needs, access to rail or roadways for logistics and guiding the process. PEDCO then recommends options to City Council for approval of the half-cent sales tax incentives to the company. Granting these incentive funds is often a deciding factor for companies to choose Pueblo. These funds can only be used for capital projects and/or to assist with the infrastructure of new and existing buildings, many owned by the City of Pueblo, once a company signs a 10-year employment agreement with the City of Pueblo.
“Sometimes PEDCO’s role is misunderstood in the use of the half-cent sales tax, and we want taxpayers to know we strive to do our best in an effort to bring prosperity and jobs,” says PEDCO Board Chair, Dominic Gallina. “We are equally disappointed when a prospect ultimately selects a different town or state for their company, but we persist in seeking companies who will value Pueblo and the community.”
PEDCO eagerly anticipates making announcements to the community welcoming new economic development in the third and fourth quarter of 2025, once City Council approves the recommendations.
-PEDCO’s purpose is primary job creation. A primary job is a full-time position in the private sector employment by manufacturing, business, commercial or service industries, producing, assembling, or distributing products, or providing services primarily or ultimately for sale consumption or use outside Pueblo. This brings money into Pueblo from outside Pueblo.
The City and County of Pueblo Economic Forum took place on a cold and snowy January 7th morning. Several curious and engaged citizens attended to gain data-driven insights about the economy on a global, national, state, regional and local level and the work underway to position Pueblo for stronger economic growth.
The featured speakers for the morning were Dr. Tatiana Bailey, Executive Director of Data Driven Strategies, who provided an updated highlight of economic activity and what it means for area residents, businesses, industry and the local economy, and Suzie Miller, Director of the Colorado Workforce Consortium who offered insights to workforce solutions planned by the state. Additional forward-thinking solution minded comments were given by Dr. Chato Hazelbaker, president of Pueblo Community College, Armando Valdez, President of CSU-Pueblo, Jeff Shaw, CEO of PEDCO and Tony Colarelli, SVP and Market President of InBank. The event was MC’d and brought to life by Pueblo City Councilman Dennis Flores.
Below you will find links to a recording of the presentations, data filled slides and Pueblo’s 2024 Q4 Economic Dashboard.
Fomcore announces it will open a manufacturing facility in Pueblo for the manufacturing of soft seating furniture using single cut construction.
PUEBLO – Today Fomcore, a manufacturer of soft seating furniture using single cut construction announced it selected Pueblo, Colorado for the site of its new facility. The facility at full capacity will employ 87 full time workers and generate an estimated $3,753,702 in annual pre-benefit payroll. The new factory will be located at 200 Greenhorn Dr. in the City of Pueblo.
Why Fomcore chose Pueblo:
Jeremy Leffring, FomCore co-owner stated that, “Fomcore considered expansion in over 20 cities in the western United States. We had outgrown our manufacturing plant in Muskegon, Michigan and wanted to expand in a community where we knew we could make an impact and grow our company mission, ‘To Bless Others.’ Pueblo felt like home, the people and manufacturing community felt like a family we wanted to become part of.
Fomcore made the announcement at 3:30 p.m. on Monday, October 25, 2021. Details of the project include:
87 guaranteed new full-time jobs with a minimum Average Base Annual Salary: $43,146. (Pre-Benefit)
$1,740,000 from the City of Pueblo’s half-cent fund for economic development (contingent on approval from the Pueblo City Council)
$10 Million investment
“PEDCO is thrilled to work with Fomcore on this wonderful project for Pueblo,” said Jeff Shaw, President and CEO of PEDCO. “The Fomcore team has been wonderful to work with and will fit in perfectly in Pueblo’s manufacturing culture,” added Shaw.
“It is an honor to have Fomcore in the Pueblo community. The work they do will not only provide comfort and functionality for schools across the Country but will also bring in exciting employment opportunities to the youth in our community. We look forward to working with them as we continue the city’s outstanding legacy in manufacturing!” said Ashley Valdez, Chairwoman of the PEDCO Board of Directors.
The Pueblo Economic Outlook Forum was held November 18th at Pueblo Community College.
Below you will find the links to the 90 minute video, the presentation slides from each of the six speakers and the latest economic and workforce dashboard so you can follow along.
Pueblo’s Economic Outlook Forum, a collaborative effort by the City of Pueblo, Pueblo County government, Pueblo Economic Development Corporation, Pueblo Community College and Dr. Tatiana Bailey, a regional economist, seeks to provide an update highlighting economic activity and what it means for area residents, businesses, industry and its local economy.
In addition, a review of Pueblo County’s key economic metric and economic indicators from it latest monthly dashboard will be shared to show how the region is doing, identify areas where improvement is needed and implement actionable efforts to reach our desired outcomes.
The Pueblo Economic Outlook provides this data to help employers, business leaders, government officials, educational and workforce partners and others to make more informed decisions with the greater goal of assisting in economic development efforts.
If after viewing the video, you are interested in further supporting our ongoing efforts to improve Pueblo’s economic vitality and quality of life through contributions or sponsorships of either the dashboard or the economic outlook forum, please contact Pueblo City Council member Dennis Flores by email at dennis.flores8118@gmail.com
With your help and support, Pueblo is well positioned for stronger economic growth.
Regards,
Dennis Flores, Economic Forum Organizer Abel Chavez, Economic Forum Organizer
An unlikely team of disparate companies, public officials, and local residents came together on a steel mill dating from the 1800s to make it the first in the world powered largely by solar.
The new solar array not far from where the Arkansas River winds through Pueblo, Colorado, is unlike any other in the world: It powers a steel mill. Just about all of it. 24/7. That’s a first.
Consider this: 750,000 solar panels on 1,800 acres of sun-drenched high plains providing 300 carbon-free megawatts to EVRAZ steel.
Steel had long been the backbone of Pueblo’s economy from the time the first mill was built in the late 1800s. So it’s no small irony that a renewable and non-emissions source of power is being used for a carbon emissions-intensive industry, one built on iron and coal in a city that has evolved from a one-time blue collar Democratic bastion to more conservative in recent decades.
The Pueblo experience may provide lessons for other communities around the world that, like Pueblo, have feared losing their traditional economic base and jobs long-rooted in fossil fuels.
A ‘win, win, win’ proposal … if only …
The Pueblo experience also offers something of a blueprint for others to consider regarding the importance of communication, trust, and imagination. In Pueblo’s case, a bit of lucky timing also helped. But the process still required bringing together folks who likely don’t routinely agree. They included players from several often-opposing industries, elected and non-elected community and civic leaders, the state, and also active and engaged local residents.
“Each of them had something the other desired,” says Dave Ferryman, senior vice president of EVRAZ North America’s Pueblo business unit. “We had what I would call a win, win, win proposal. If we could get the parties to agree.”
Pueblo’s steel mill has cycled through owners, boom times, bad times, bankruptcies, new beginnings, and more. When it was acquired by EVRAZ in 2007, the operation was already using an electric arc furnace instead of a traditional blast furnace. An arc furnace makes new steel out of old steel – everything from old washing machines to – in EVRAZ’s case – the remnants of Mile High Stadium in Denver, onetime home of the Broncos NFL football team. That process knocks down carbon emissions by up to 75%.
But an arc furnace needs a lot of power – more power than anything else in Colorado.
“We’re the largest energy consumer in the state of Colorado,” Ferryman says. “That’s not necessarily something we’re proud of, but a necessity for our business. So we need energy; we need affordable energy.”
That need was particularly strong given a new mill EVRAZ was planning to build to manufacture rails for train tracks in 320-foot sections instead of the customary 80-foot rails. Without more affordable power than it had, EVRAZ might decide to build the new mill in one of the other states it was actively considering. “There was a lot of concern locally that this could be the beginning of the end for Pueblo steelmaking,” Ferryman says.
How to begin: ‘We just started having meetings’ across the community
But something else happening at the same time changed the whole trajectory.
Xcel Energy, Colorado’s largest power provider, had been supplying electricity to the mill complex from three coal plants – Comanche 1, 2, and 3. The prices tended to be high and also inconsistent.
Xcel didn’t know the steel mill was considering moving when the State of Colorado issued a mandate in 2017 requiring power providers to get to 80% carbon-free power by 2030. The first step Xcel wanted to take was to close Comanche 1 and 2 in 2023 and 2025 respectively, about 10 years earlier than planned.
“It was important to start talking with our community about that transition,” says Hollie Velasquez Horvath, who handles state affairs and community relations for Xcel in Colorado and has family in Pueblo. “So we just started having meetings.”
What Xcel heard at those meetings was that, along with concerns about losing jobs at the Comanche plants, Pueblo was worried the steel mill would simply up-and-leave.
Bringing all parties together seemed like the only way forward.
EVRAZ needed affordable energy. Xcel needed carbon-free power. Pueblo needed to keep its industry and the jobs and tax base that came with it.
The answer was literally sitting in EVRAZ’s backyard, those 1,800 sun-bathed acres.
“We have a lot of land that really isn’t good for agriculture, or much anything else – just very desert-type environment in and around our facility,” Ferryman says. “But a lot of sunshine and a lot of land.”
The solution was solar.
“The conversations weren’t necessarily driven by the climate side of it, but the solution came from that,” says Jeff Shaw, president and CEO of the privately-run Pueblo Economic Development Corporation, PEDCO. “We had to get guaranteed lower rates. And this was the way that we can do it.”
Complexity of deal yields to time, effort, and ‘a little creativity’
It was a complicated deal though. “The most complicated one we’ve ever worked on in 40 years,” Shaw says.
In addition to EVRAZ and Xcel, the parties included solar developer Lightsource BP. Half-owned by BP, the company was tapped to build, own, and operate the installation – now known as Bighorn Solar. Also involved were the city of Pueblo; the county of Pueblo; PEDCO; and others.
Each put in time and effort to understand the nuances of difficult technical and financial processes. It took more than a little creativity to get through some unique twists and turns, starting with the mill’s power being supplied by Xcel, but not the city’s power.
In addition, it took a bit of doing to convince EVRAZ that solar was going to make more sense than coal for a 24/7 operation.
‘We had to find a way … or risk losing the mill.’
Further complicating the conversation: The steel mill is actually located in Pueblo County, not in the city. So to tap the city’s dedicated tax fund for capital or economic development, PEDCO had to figure out a way for the city to annex a portion of where the new rail mill would be located.
“Necessity is the mother of invention,” says Terry Hart, a county commissioner at the time. “We had to find a way to make this work, or we stood the chance of losing the steel mill.”
Residents of the community had to be involved early and at every step.
“We had to educate them on what they were doing, why they’re doing it, the economic impact of the mill that it has right now, and then what the projected economic impact would be after expansion,” Shaw says. “Overall, the community was wildly supportive.”
With all that, the deal took less than two years to pull together. Some $95 million in a variety of incentives was secured, and so too was a 20-year fixed rate power purchase agreement for EVRAZ.
Since the fall of 2021, two years after the deal was announced, Bighorn Solar has been providing power to EVRAZ.
“The best thing that Pueblo did was not put up a roadblock and decide at that moment when we started talking with them that they were going to fight this plan and fight the realities that coal plants were being decommissioned and coming offline,” Horvath of Xcel says. “Instead, they engaged.”
Lots of winners, the climate among them
Pueblo is among several winners, as are efforts to address climate change. Coal has basically been eliminated from the mill. The third Comanche coal plant still running the mill and online only since 2010 now is to be retired in 2034 – 36 years ahead of schedule. Combine those carbon savings with the solar power and savings from mined iron and coal no longer needed, and the mill will produce 1/30th the carbon it might have otherwise.
Xcel has two more solar installations under construction in the area – 550 megawatts of grid power and storage. They will produce tax revenue, jobs, and the kind of climate change-consciousness and cleaner environment more and more businesses and residents seek when choosing where to locate.
EVRAZ, having gotten a consistent energy price, has stayed, and its planned new mill is under construction.
The local community college is getting money for job training, and in addition to the mill jobs increase, there will now be jobs for solar installation.
Xcel says it is already applying the lessons of Pueblo to help retire two coal units in another part of the state. And they’re talking to their large customers about sustainability goals and making positive impacts on climate change. “So for them to have a large utility-scale solar farm that generates a majority of their power, man, what a great story,” Horvath says.
Pueblo County appears now to have the solar bug. It’s hoping to land solar industry manufacturing and supply chain companies. It’s planning to build a net-zero jail with a solar array that will generate electricity for the jail and for the grid.
Had the folks in Pueblo looked only at their existing businesses and customers, Ferryman says, chances are EVRAZ would have moved, and Xcel might have never come up with an alternative after shutting down the coal plants.
“When people come together that don’t necessarily work well together,” he says, “If you can get the parties to sit down and talk, you can find alternatives that end up being wins for everyone. And that’s really what happened here.”
The lesson, says Chris Wiseman, a Pueblo County commissioner: “Just be open to any ideas.”
“You’ve got to trust each other,” he says. “We have our little scrapes from time to time because competing governmental entities do, but when it comes down to what we need to create jobs and create a better environment in Pueblo I think for the most part we’re all on the same page.”
From Shaw of PEDCO, who says he couldn’t have envisioned the Pueblo scenario even five years ago: “The easy lesson is if it can be pulled off for a large steelmaker, there’s really no industry that it can’t work for.”
